effervescible: (ichigo - turn turn turn)
Jaina ([personal profile] effervescible) wrote2007-06-23 03:05 pm

Stoled from [livejournal.com profile] memlu and others

Ask me about a concept in fandom (the treatment of female characters, incest, etc etc.) and I'll give you my opinion on it.

[identity profile] hallowd.livejournal.com 2007-06-23 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Sex as a cure for rape/incest traumas. If that's too sensitive/serious, let's say treatment of female characters by slash writers in animanga fandom. Or do both, whichever way.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2007-06-25 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
1. IT IS STUPID. Not that I would try to censor people if that's what they want to write about. I will just call the fics stupid, possibly behind a flock.

2. I would never generalize slash writers as a single entity, but sometimes I just want to ask: WHY DO YOU HATE YOUR VAGINA? And I wish I could say "okay, if this character were a dude instead of a chick, would you still hate them?" and force them to BE HONEST.

It's just as okay to not find het hot as it is to not find yaoi/slash hot, but sometimes the misogyny is coming from the ladies too.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I like my vagina just fine. I just don't want to fuck it.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I think that is the best explanation ever for "why slash and not het?" I hope I didn't come across as sounding like there's something wrong if you don't like them tasty vaginas. It's just the segment of slash fans that don't see their own misogyny that boggles me. (And the misogyny can come from het fans too--I think we could name a couple of individuals...)

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm fine with Ichigo/Rukia, but I'm not sure I want to watch them fucking. And some het-- and some slash-- ships work far better than others.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well clearly I must defriend you know. GOD KNOWS THE TWO OF US CAN'T EVER DISAGREE ON SHIPS OF CHOICE, AMIRITE? ;)

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2007-06-26 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
OBVIOUSLY.