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Jaina ([personal profile] effervescible) wrote2008-10-18 05:42 pm
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Obama supporters, lend me some links

Talked briefly with my dad about the election today, and he's leaning towards Obama, although he has some concerns-"he's a socialist," he said to me, and I was like "um...not quite." He was also interested when I offered to send him some informational links, so any suggestions? Definitely I'll send him to FactCheck, since that's non-partisan. I just want to tip him off the edge of the fence. He's not fond of Palin's "rape victims should totally have to have their attacker's baby" policy, which made me happy.
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[identity profile] spicedrum.livejournal.com 2008-10-18 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of the socialist talk comes from the healthcare thing. here's obama's healthcare plan proposal

[identity profile] sophiap.livejournal.com 2008-10-18 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It might also help to point him towards Christopher Buckley, Christopher Hitchens, and George Will. All three are considered classic, intellectual conservatives, and all three prefer Obama to McCain.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-10-18 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Buckley's essay is particularly nice-- Hitchens is old school but also a bit of a foaming-at-the-mouth type. Not sure if he considers Andrew Sullivan a traitor to conservatism or not (if those ideals are even in his radar), but he's written a good deal praising Obama and trashing McCain.

And Obama's own site is a pretty good source of policy.

[identity profile] dougras.livejournal.com 2008-10-18 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
In 161 years of being in print, the Chicago Tribune has never, ever, endorsed a Democrat. Never. They've endorsed a couple of independents a very long time ago, but that's it. Not even when the governor of Illinois, Adlai Stevenson, ran in the 50s, did they support a democrat. The article is good because it goes through exactly why they picked Obama.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-chicago-tribune-endorsement,0,7429170,full.story

[identity profile] pyrobovaphiliac.livejournal.com 2008-10-19 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Casey was looking at your post earlier, and I was looking over her shoulder.

Here's a link to a story The Economist ran a couple weeks ago. They did a poll of researchers from the National Bureau of Economic Research, which came out quite in favor of Obama.

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127

[identity profile] cjblackwing.livejournal.com 2008-10-19 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"he's a socialist"

That's what one of my conservative friends said just last night.

As for links, I have liek none, most of my Palin hatred and Obama love comes form debates and Facebook ^______^;;; *fails in the 'reputable source' department*

[identity profile] dougras.livejournal.com 2008-10-19 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
New link!

Colin Powell, you know, Republican Secretary of State, United States Army General, that guy, endorsed Barack Obama on Meet the Press this morning.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27265490#27265490

[identity profile] buttercup0222.livejournal.com 2008-10-19 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That was a great interview - I loved when he pointed out that citing someone being a Muslim as a reason to vote against them is un-American.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-10-19 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. About time someone said it.

[identity profile] nothingjerk.livejournal.com 2008-10-19 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
i wish my father would be willing to go to websites and check facts.

He's been very conservative, especially since 911. He's very heated about the election and i think watches too much fox news

he lives in NY anyway so its not like his vote matters the college votes will go to obama no matter what
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[identity profile] irenak.livejournal.com 2008-10-20 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ah hahahahaha! I just went off and did the Ranty McRantypants post on how completely ridiculous that fucking meme is.

If he would like a comparison, this is the official Socialist Party USA website. They have their platform listed there. Have him read it, then make sure he goes back to read Obama's platform. Especially the economic stuff.

Um, yeah.

[identity profile] jmcgarry.livejournal.com 2008-10-20 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I will second or third Factcheck.org. They are totally non-partisan.

N.B. I Canada Obama would fit fairly comfortably on the right-of-centre (as would most Democrats); I would see him as a Red Tory. (Also red and blue are flipped here, blue is Conservative, red is Liberal.) A socialist he's not, he's a right-centrist. I'm not sure even the NDP here (they are leftists) would be socialists.
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[identity profile] 07janina07.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
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