effervescible: (ohhhhhh shit son)
Jaina ([personal profile] effervescible) wrote2008-10-13 10:43 pm
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I mostly watch for the train wreck now

Oh, Heroes. Yes, that's it, more violence against women. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS SHOW NEEDS MORE OF.

[identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I KNOW, RIGHT? WAY TO GO, WRITERS.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
MORE CREEPY RAPE ALLUSIONS. I LOVE THOSE!

[identity profile] sarcasticval.livejournal.com 2008-10-15 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
WHO DOESN'T?

[identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the show's race and gender issues don't seem to be improving.

[identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
The race stuff bugs the shit out of me too. We get a very interesting character with potential in Canfield ... he poofted himself out of existence! Sad thing? I knew it was coming, long before it happened. Not to mention that Knox is on the side of the villains. *SIGH* I've ranted enough on the he-man woman-hating in my own reviews of the eps thusfar ... and I'm ranted out.

[identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention Mohinder's drug dealer - black guy with locks.

And the only non-villain black guy this season is ANOTHER MAGICAL NEGRO. Like the Haitian (who still doesn't have a gorram NAME) wasn't enough?!

[identity profile] donna-c-punk.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I can't believe I forgot the drug dealer. I'm trying so hard to forget Mohinder even exists ... *sigh* And to think this was supposed to be the big improvement fans have been waiting for. I said it before, I'll say it again: I BLAME JEPH LOEB.

[identity profile] c0untmystars.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, fuck's sake. Who now?

At this point I'm only watching for my teevee boyfriend *indicates icon*

[identity profile] cadesama.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
And... you know, fighting back against the violence on their own. Which, clearly Meredith, Claire, and Sandra will be doing. Maya it's less clear, but with Nathan and Tracy there too, it's not like we've got a situation where the damsel is being saved by the man. They'll all probably pitch in.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd give them a bigger benefit of the doubt if Heroes had done more to earn it :/

I do like Tracy better than Niki OR Jessica though.

[identity profile] cadesama.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see how it's the benefit of the doubt. It's what they are factually setting up to do, between having Claire and Sandra as the only characters aware of Meredith's situation and Tracy's power as the only one likely to be useful against sticky cocoons.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Heroes has some race and gender issues in general that have made me go :/ and make me less interested in sitting through the abuse to get to the kickass redemption. I'm so, so tired of female heroes getting thrown into rape-parallel situations. My weariness at such might not be solely Heroes' fault, but that doesn't make it more fun to watch.

[identity profile] cadesama.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm perfectly on board with talking about race and gender issues in Heroes, and I can under how an expectation that they might follow through on something you haven't enjoyed in the past wouldn't interest you. I'm not one to automatically assume the worst, but I suppose it just doesn't get to me as badly. The concept of a puppetmaster would be creepy no matter what, and I'm fairly satisfied to see a "nice guy" portrayed as a villain rather than someone who is misunderstood. Maybe it would be better to do that kind of character with the male heroes, maybe not, but since Claire has already proven herself fully competent in the field in non rape parallel situations, I okay with her taking that on. It's not the only thing she ever faces.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying Heroes never does anything right, otherwise I wouldn't be watching to begin with, but even though the puppet guy has a power that could be creepy and cool, seeing him already violating a woman like that in a way that fairly shrieks of rape parallel warning signals just some vomit up my throat. And it's a general sick-of-it-all-ness, not limited to this specific plot event, so explaining this one away doesn't really make it better overall. Hey, for all I know I will think the next episode is the awesomest thing that ever awesomed, but based solely on what's actually aired, I just wish it had gone differently.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, I'd rather watch the female characters get smacked around than listen to Sylar whine about The Hunger.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I can't bring myself to disagree with that.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-10-17 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I still haven't watched this week's. I'm kind of afraid to.