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Jaina ([personal profile] effervescible) wrote2008-07-13 12:00 am

Oh fandom

Dear random IchiHime fanperson who I'm obviously not really writing to,

I'm not gonna argue with you about whose ship is right, because that sort of thing is just dumb and we should all be able to ship who we like and be fine with it. But I have to ask: Rukia "knows that Orihime is even more important to Ichigo than she is"?

Really? How does she know?

Sigh,

-[livejournal.com profile] jaina

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's obviously in the chapter of Bleach that only exists in hir head.

DUH.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm all for interpreting the emotions of characters in your own way, especially when they're unspoken, but there's a point at which it becomes projection.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think they're well through that and out the other side, unless I missed the ENTIRE ARC where they went to save Orihime for like TWENTY MILLION EPISODES. (Which, hey, I'm watching on Adult Swim, so I totally could have missed that arc. And the lack of one doesn't mean she's not important to him-- I have no dog in this fight-- it's just...what.)

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I totally think Orihime's important to him! (In a platonic way.) And while I think it's stupid to come to the conclusion that Rukia is totally rooting for them to get together, it's at least in the realm of possibility, because of course she'd want her friends to be happy. But how on EARTH would she come to the conclusion that Orihime is totally more important in Ichigo's heart? Grade A projection thar.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I like it when people make the shippers I'm familiar with look rational and well-balanced.

[identity profile] kari-izumi.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, Lord.

Why can't people accept that Ichigo can care for BOTH girls without making one more important than the other? *Facepalm*

[identity profile] utenatai.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I have to admit to believing that the exact opposite is true. Doesn't Hime say as much to Matsumoto?


(That said, I know exactly where this came from- Rukia sending him on to save Hime rather than "reunioning" with her.)

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, me too, but I was in diplomat mode. Cuz. Seriously.

(Oh yeah. I called it before ill-advisedly clicking on the link.)

[identity profile] dougras.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Ichigo turned to Rukia, "You know," he said to her, with beautiful, crystalline tears in his eyes, "that Orihime is more important to me than you are."

Rukia pulled a bunny-covered handkerchief from out of her bosom and dabbed it to her eyes. "I," she said, sobbing softly, "understand. I shall diminish, and sail off into the West, and remain Rukia."

[identity profile] starvinbohemian.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
Best... allusion... ever. ^_______^

[identity profile] dougras.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
You, too, can do this with a BACHELOR OF ARTS IN ENGLISH.

It won't get you any jobs, but boy howdy, you sure can drop allusions.

[identity profile] starvinbohemian.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
Lol! I do have a B.A. in English. And you are sadly correct on both counts. -_-;

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
BEST VERSION EVER. I think you should send this to Kubo. Clearly he needs to take writing tips from Tolkien you.

[identity profile] dougras.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I HAVE NO IDEA AT ALL WHY I DECIDED THAT RUKIA = GALADRIEL.

BUT FOR SOME REASON I THINK IT WORKS.

[identity profile] kumagoro-usagi.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't Matsumoto's speech in 199 saying they where both as important to Ichigo? Why does one always have to "unstage" another?

I'm tired of Bleach fandom, or to be mroe specific Bleach shipping fandom. Everyone becomes more obnoxious, rude and condescending as each week passes.

[identity profile] lady-ganesh.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention that someone of the opposite sex can be deeply important to you without fucking them.

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
That was actually a mistranslation-it later came out that Matsumoto was telling Orihime something about how it was good that she was at least dealing with her feelings of jealousy, or something like that-I forget the details and haven't re-loaded the scanlations on new!computer.;

But either way, yeah-I've been avoiding the ship forums that bitch about other pairings, and I just clicked on this link when I shouldn't have. I don't see why people need to fight over a "winner" in this chapter anyway. IchiRuki fans can be happy because of the eyesex Significant Glance and Look of Dopey Joy from Ichigo, and IchiHime fans can be happy because Ichigo is rushing like made to her side. What is the point of ripping other people down?

[identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously.

[identity profile] kumagoro-usagi.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
IchiRuki fans can be happy because of the eyesex Significant Glance and Look of Dopey Joy from Ichigo, and IchiHime fans can be happy because Ichigo is rushing like made to her side. What is the point of ripping other people down?

That's what I was feeling. It wasn't a brillaint chapter but had everything that could pass it off as bareable. Fight scenes reunions and resolve. Can't people just enjoy something without being blatently bitchy and quite disrespectful to others? Is it really that hard? Or has this fandom developed such a bad inferiority complex the only way of validating your feelings is to trash talk each other?

[identity profile] starvinbohemian.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
Haha. Yeah, I saw that, too. Just reading it cost me a few brain cells, but what the hey.

[identity profile] fanartist.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
... o.o;;;;;

AND I SHALL SIT IN MY ICHIRUKI CORNER IN CHURCH AND CONTINUE TO MAKE MORE DOUJINSHI.

... AFTER SUNDAY SERVICE ENDS.

(ps: I posted moar doujinshi yesterday on [livejournal.com profile] ichi_ruki, if you missed it ^^;).

[identity profile] fanartist.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And I'll have to say that Rukia's putting Orihime first in this situation because Hime-chan has a higher chance of, y'know... dying, maybe?

=_=;;

[identity profile] kari-izumi.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Silly girl. How dare you point out the obvious common-sense answer!

;)

[identity profile] fanartist.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
D: FORGIVE ME MY QUEEN

[identity profile] ahh-bombshell.livejournal.com 2008-07-28 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
i dont know if we're talking about the same one, but i read somewhere
"rukia knows there is someone else who is waiting for ichigo"

i was like, how can she read a characters mind?!

[identity profile] ahh-bombshell.livejournal.com 2008-07-28 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
this reply is like 65446 years too late. lol.