jainax: You know that scene in Princess Bride where Westley and the Sicilian are having their battle of wits over which goblet of possibly poisoned wine the Sicilian should drink, and he's going over all the different logical reasons he should or should not take one or the other?
He's an anti-hero, so I can see how we're still supposed to dislike him...but...we're supposed to ENJOY disliking him, I guess. But I hated him too. I liked L and Ryuk and that was about it.
YES EXACTLY. Someone once described DN as what happens when an author writes about characters smarter than they are, and it is so on. The majority of the "brilliant deductions that only a genius could make" are very clearly BS ass-pulls explained away as brilliance so they don't have to be explained.
i didn't enjoy hating him. i just hated him and wanted to stab him in the face.
i really think the series shoulda ended soon after L died. pretty much everyone liked L and.... yea nothing else.
i only really liked two "genius" things light did: (and i understood these things) -the way he rigged the desk drawer to hide the notebook -the way he dealt with that guy... um... when he was on the bus, on teh date, and had a tiny piece of paper from the notebook, and teh guy touched it and started screaming he could see ryuk and everyone thought he was tstark raving mad.
every other time i just wanted to scream for him to stop talking.
I mean, I like it for that reason, but it so totally is. I can't wait until MisaMisa shows up and people actually start acting like crazy humans instead of crazy robots.
Oh God, yes. And somehow the neverending exposition is even worse in English.
I flipped on the AS dub once when the boyfriend was here, and after 5 minutes, he looks at me and goes, "Is the whole show just this guy thinking?". Yeah...kinda.
I remember reading the DN manga (back when "Light" was "Raito"--I still have a hard time thinking of him as "Light" because that name is SO FUCKING STUPID!!!!) because so many people'd recc'd it to me on the premise that "there's lots of gay".
I liked it pretty well for a while, because it was different and because I'd been promised gay.
And LET ME TELL YOU, INTARNETS...! When I got to the "gay" shit, where Light and L are handcuffed together...it was just really, really disappointing, and I never could get into it after that. Who knew "the gay" was such a motivating factor?!
Lesson: don't get into shows just because of the gay. Next thing you know, you'll be watching Prince of Tennis.
I am working on the anime, I think I've seen about 15 episodes or so (can't exactly remember), up to at about the part where L and Light meet. I am intrigued by the concept but sometimes bored by the execution. It is, essentially, a story about a guy writing things down, and then everybody talking about it. All the acts of murder are, in a way, very passive... I wonder if in the future it might not turn into a battle of who can write the fastest, like in first grade when you're learning cursive and have to copy a bajillion sentences before you can go to recess.
But I am intrigued and its only two seasons, so I'll probably finish watching it.
Some of the deductions the characters make don't make sense. L's initial profile of Kira sounded completely arbitrary to me. And without that, nothing else would have fallen into place as hints.
The manga is better, for many reasons, among them that some of the leaps of logic make more sense, and even if they don't, you're on to the next page, so it doesn't bother you as much.
I liked the animation in the first episode and the idea is sort of intriguing but I got the impression they were trying really hard to make an unlikable human being into a likable protagonist and only succeeded in making a really unlikable protagonist instead. Which kind of made me want to throw a DVD box set of House at their heads.
Perhaps they needed more Hugh Laurie to pull it off?
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and i only got about 5 eps into the anime...
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jainax: You know that scene in Princess Bride where Westley and the Sicilian are having their battle of wits over which goblet of possibly poisoned wine the Sicilian should drink, and he's going over all the different logical reasons he should or should not take one or the other?
Indigosama: Of course
jainax: that's what like half of this series is
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and when you go WHAT? over pretty much every single logic jump that happens....
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YES EXACTLY. Someone once described DN as what happens when an author writes about characters smarter than they are, and it is so on. The majority of the "brilliant deductions that only a genius could make" are very clearly BS ass-pulls explained away as brilliance so they don't have to be explained.
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i really think the series shoulda ended soon after L died. pretty much everyone liked L and.... yea nothing else.
i only really liked two "genius" things light did: (and i understood these things)
-the way he rigged the desk drawer to hide the notebook
-the way he dealt with that guy... um... when he was on the bus, on teh date, and had a tiny piece of paper from the notebook, and teh guy touched it and started screaming he could see ryuk and everyone thought he was tstark raving mad.
every other time i just wanted to scream for him to stop talking.
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I mean, I like it for that reason, but it so totally is. I can't wait until MisaMisa shows up and people actually start acting like crazy humans instead of crazy robots.
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I flipped on the AS dub once when the boyfriend was here, and after 5 minutes, he looks at me and goes, "Is the whole show just this guy thinking?". Yeah...kinda.
LET ME TELL YOU....
I liked it pretty well for a while, because it was different and because I'd been promised gay.
And LET ME TELL YOU, INTARNETS...! When I got to the "gay" shit, where Light and L are handcuffed together...it was just really, really disappointing, and I never could get into it after that. Who knew "the gay" was such a motivating factor?!
Lesson: don't get into shows just because of the gay. Next thing you know, you'll be watching Prince of Tennis.
That was long and ranty. I'll shut up now.
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But I am intrigued and its only two seasons, so I'll probably finish watching it.
Some of the deductions the characters make don't make sense. L's initial profile of Kira sounded completely arbitrary to me. And without that, nothing else would have fallen into place as hints.
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Perhaps they needed more Hugh Laurie to pull it off?
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