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1. My first 'ship that I really felt strongly about was probably Sydney/Weiss. Although I'd dabbled in some Buffy and Angel ships, none of them really ever set me off like that one did. I'm just a fan of the kick-butt girl getting the goofball (which is probably why I was also a little Buffy/Xander-y when I first watched Buffy S1 straight through).

2. I was a total Monty Python, Star Trek, horror film geek back in the day (I even attended a Trek convention), but watching Buffy was the first time I was ever a Fan. Most of my interests last about nine months and then fade into the background or disappear altogether. Three and a half years into Whedon fandom and I'm still going strong.

3. Lessee... first Internet bud I ever met was Jen, but that was for something a bit more than fandom. Then there was the whole giganimous gang at ComicCon. That was an absolute blast. I really solidified some friendships there and general geeky fun was had.

4. Er, let's see. Mandsey!Hugs. Singing along to OMWF. Watching

veggiebelle break in the middle of a ComicCon panel. Trying to eat the top of

airawyn's head. Enjoying a hearty round of pizza, ice cream, and Mike's while watching the last few eps of Alias Season 3 with

airawyn. Geeking out to musicals with

sarakat. Trying to locate

_jealousy_ in the exhibition hall at ComicCon, which was really fun because she was the only one without a cell phone. Ooh! Having dinner with

veggiebelle's publisher. That was spiffy.

My first ship? Kirk/Spock. Didn't even know what Teh Gay was, but in seven-year-old 'dog's universe the Captain and the alien guy were so obviously married. "No no no," says my school chums, "Kirk flirts with all the pretty lady aliens." "Of course he does," scoffs 'dog. "And Spock pretends to have no emotions. Grownups are silly like that."
(Although I have never liked photomanips of these two. One of my few squicks is RPS, and using actor's images in relation to fic - even cute ones like James Marsters or Amber Benson - is a bit too 'real' for me. B'sides, Kirk is supposed to be teh Sex God of the Universe, and Shatner? Not cure.)

OMG I am a Fan: I read Spirk fic off and on for years before finds any fic online. "La la la, I search for information on next season's Buffy... la la la... 'Spike and Xander have a deep meaningful conversation wherein they snark at each other then fuck like Anya-dispersing bunnies'. ...the fuck?"
Yes, I am the clever. I didn't realize that fic existed for any fandom other than Trek. (And why should I have? I had Trek fanfic books, and watched Trek fanfic movies - you can't tell me that ST 5 was canon - and read badly photocopied Trek 'zines... my god I was a dork! *revels in dorkness*) Once I found other fic online there was no stopping me.
And now? I have many fandoms. I ph34r my to-watch list.

And while I haven't yet met any of the Yaoi Sisterhood (or the Het Bettys, for that matter), I have had the doubletake experience of watching movies with non-fandom friends, and having these friends discuss the finer points of Dwarf/Elf slash, or shout out that the Kenshin slash really truly does write itself. That's fun. It's fucking weird, but it's fun.

And while I haven't yet met any of the Yaoi Sisterhood

You haven't? Not from any fandom? You seriously need to fix that. Over the last 10 years, I've met more than 30 fandom peeps and only one turned out to be a crazy bitch. And to be honest, there was no doubt in advance she was a crazy bitch - I didn't choose to meet her, a friend did. The rest so far have been a damn good bunch.

One of my close friends from freshman year of college got into fandom via me, and then it turned out she was a crazy bitch. I'm not sure if I just brought it out in her or fandom was her equivalent of Bruce Banner's gamma rays.

Fandom definitely does that to some people. It's like the whole pack mentality thing. Can't speak for you, of course XD

Well, you already knew that I surround myself with bitches so as to bully the poor yaoi fans. The ones I don't seduce away with my sweet, sweet het porn, that is.

Oh no! The threat of the het! You really do drive people crazy!

One of these I'm going to ~~be really fucking obnoxious~~ continue my quest to make all of you boy on boy people see the light and write a detailed essay on why Vash and Meryl have CLEARLY been fucking through the entire series, including the episodes where she and and Vash aren't traveling together, and theirs is the ONLY canon pairing because Wolfwood and Milly TOTALLY just ate sandwiches together, and by the way he's totally celibate anyway. And I'm going to post it to

trigun_pairings. Not because of who mods it, I just have to spread the good word.

But you should! I mean, you're totally entitled to, because that wouldn't be being obnoxious at all, that would just be telling everyone what you think, and there can't be anything wrong with that, now, can there?

I'm just one of those people who keeps it real and refuses to be censored! This is America all over the internet so I can say whatever I want and you can't criticize me for it! I'm just telling the truth, it's not my fault if they're so dumb they can't understand it! I'm SO non-PC!

Well, I will be cruising up Seattle-wise at somepoint this spring to visit my niece...

I'm sure we can schedule you in, my dear, if your niece won't feel too deprived of your company while you go porn :-)

She's four. She'll deal.

Me: "Auntie Eileen's gonna go have grownup time with her grownup friends now, monkey. Why don't you go put makeup on Uncle Sean?"
Her: "Yay!"
Sean: "Yay!"

I'm sure Uncle Sean really looks forward to you mixing with the kid XD

I'm sorry, but you shouldn't have taken the straitjacket off. It's my security blanket.

Your strait-jacket? You mean the hairy one we threw dim sum all over? XD

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Yeah. It's fluffy so I don't hurt myself. I'm a ' "danger to myself and others" '.

At least they let me leave off the helmet.

Kirk/Spock should TOTALLY be called Spork. Just saying. And I can totally relate to your feeling of revelatory happiness upon realizing there was fic out there. Mine didn't hapen to me all at once, but I remember realizing that GOOD fic could fill a craving, and that was happy. Even if my definition of "good" back then is not the same as my current deifnition.

Kirk/Spock should TOTALLY be called Spork.

"Kock" is my favourite.

And yes. Not only was there this thing called "fic", but some of it was actually good, and it was free, and I could tell the authors exactly what I liked and what i didn't and they would ~~get~~ receive my feedback! Woo!

erm, the parents of your namesake, of course, darling, and I was 3-13 when I loved them the mostest. Han and Leia, for those of you playing along at home who didn't read the novels. I think it was having all three movies memorized that tipped me off on the obsession. That and the comic books, action figures, plastic models, micromachine ships, and the fact that I had memorized all the different species in the Star Wars universe. FANGIRL! I wish the net had really been around, then, when I was 11 or so.

First net people were my Joni Mitchell people who sent me birthday presents when I turned 15 and 16 (i was the list baby.) I had to leave the list when some dumbass 14 year old joined and insisted on acting like a 14 year old, and people insisted on calling her the baby. I was on the list for a year before they realized I had been 14, not in my 20s.

Best net times:
1) my drive to LA and back freshman year of college with almost strangers and four Scully PIs
2) Living with Jen in San Diego
3) AJ/James's wedding, Ron/Shelley's wedding, Joni/Brian's wedding, Char/Dan's wedding. 4 weddings that occured ONLY BECAUSE OF THE NET. Joni and Brian might have had a chance to meet without the net, but the other 3 never would have.
4) Denver, fall 2000, when I began to not fear Autumn, when I became friends with Susan, and when I was with Mike
5) You coming to my play. I'd had net friends at my last Agnes Nixon, and you completed my circle.

Dude, I love all the love that has come out of the HoE. So incredibly awesome. I only wish that I'd been able to attend more than just the one, sigh. Damn school/money issues. Argh I want to come visit you and Char! Find me a cheap spring break ticket, wouldja?

Coming to your play was so awesome. It was FAB to see you again, and the play was SO good! I remember trying to explain to my mother afterwards the significance of the title and why it was witty and the play rocked but I don't think she quite got it. I do tend to garble recaps.

(sorry, collecting old comments)

I can't describe that play, either, don't feel dumb. I don't think the director or the actors could, either.

You know, on a whim I just checked Orbitz and WOAH fares SO much cheaper than another tentative plan I had for spring break that had to be nixed because of the cost.

...whatcha doing in early March? Up for a visitor?

I've been a shipper of various characters on various shows practically since birth. My first real OTP was Dax and Bashir on Star Trek Deep Space Nine and my first OTP that I participated in internet fandom for was Mulder and Scully, because, well, Mulder + Scully = 4evar. omg wtf bbq !!!11!!1!1one.

I have met many internet buds offline, of whom the fandom people were

kelbelle,

redraidermush, and

alikona727. All of my "meeting internet friends in real life" experiences have been positive ones... hell, I met my roommate through fandom.

My favorite net-buddy get-together experience is the ongoing experience of daily life at Casa De

offscreen and

redraidermush.

I really want to do, like, a tour of all my California friends sometime and hang out with you! We've been going through boxes of old stuff since we moved, (also because I need to weed stuff out when I graduate and move) getting ready to clear stuff for the garage sale, and I found some cards you sent me like...years ago. I think one was more my seventeenth birthday and you couldn't believe I was that young. I don't think I ever told you how happy it made me to have you remember me and go to the trouble of sending those cards.

Lesse...

1. My first OMG TWU WUV OTP? Fuuma x Kamui (X/1999), I suppose.

2. Jenny, an anime series that NOBODY seems to know. >_<

3. I've never met too many I-net buddies offline ('cause most of them live in other countries)... But those I've met turned out to be even cooler than I expected.

1.) Odo/Kira from DS9. Because they're so meant to be OMG!!1

2.) The 'fan' was inescapable when I started reading fic. Because it was the slow slide from being an obsessed nerd to...aw, shit I'm one of them.

3.) I've met

tiggymalvern and

imire_nico who're the only exclusivly-online friends (most of my f-list were already friends, and then fans). It was fun. We watched anime and bitched and got drunk. Yay!

Odo/Kira omg!!!!! *has sudden impuse to rent DS9 DVDs*

Dooooo iiiiiiittt. I caught up on the last 3 seasons this summer by binging on them all in about a two-week period.

I'm still dying over that Yaoi-con video... XD

*perks up*

Yaoi-con vid?

Mystery Yaoi Theater 3000 - please, tell me you've seen that one!

Whiiiiich Backstreet Booooy is gay?

when I was seven... yes seven years old and I gave a talk to 40 other fans at an Austrek meeting in 1978 on "transporter as plot loophole device" to 50 other fans..

my first net-fan moment?

I had my shoulders audited by a nice canadian accountant;)

when I was seven... yes seven years old and I gave a talk to 40 other fans at an Austrek meeting in 1978 on "transporter as plot loophole device" to 50 other fans..

You are officially my Trekdork superhero.

I'm in recovery. I saw three consecutive episodes of the last season of voyager..
I still have nightmares.

Then Berman started turning the ships doctors into ewok like cute characters.. the horror. the horror.

I watched every episode of TNG religiously. And the first two seasons of DS9. I hear there were two more series, but I lost interest.

...and I just heard through the dorkvine that the latest version ("Enterprise"? How original) has been cancelled.

The first show/pairing I was obsessed with was probably the X-Files and Mulder/Scully, but this was in pre-internet days for me. By the time I got online, CC had started smoking the bad monkey crack and I'd lost much of my interest in the show. DS9 was another obsession, and to this day I remain a Bashir fangirl. Once I got onto the 'net, I soon found myself hanging out with other Buffy fans, but Sailor Moon was the first fandom that got me sucked in enough to start reading and writing fanfiction. My first slash pairing (and the only pairing I've been known to get irrational about) was Fraser/Ray K., and that can be blamed entirely on the wealth of good slash fic in that fandom.

I think I knew was a capital F fan when I found myself researching stuff for my fanfiction.

My Buffy internet group is still going strong well after the show's cancellation, and there are annual F2F gatherings. The last one was in my neck of the woods, so of course I went. They are a good bunch of people--smart, funny, and truly willing to help each other out when it counts. The best get-together moment was going to the National Zoo with a bunch of people I'd met for the first time just hours before.

Okay, I'll bite. ^_^

1. Hmmm... Probably the first 'ship that I thought about in those terms would be Luke and Mara from Timothy Zahn's trilogy. Mara's been called all kinds of things, not the least of which is Mary Sue, but this had to be the first couple about whom I went looking for pr0n. That's a reasonable acid test, don't you think?

2. The irrevocable slide into cosplay. Once you start dressing up as someone, it's all over but the shouting.

3. The first Internet friend I met was

fireceremony, and it was definitely strange in that while I'd never seen her face to face before, we immediately started babbling on like we'd known each other for years. It put a positive spin on meeting further Internet buds. As for you and the rest of the *cough* Het Bettys (I really don't like that term overmuch, but oh well) it was awkward at first but then got to be a lot of fun.

4. Reading the bad fanfic. XD Anime Night. Trips to Mitsuwa. Bitching about people on LJ we all know.

Bitching about people on LJ we all know.

Haha, that's so true. Not just the bitching, but the meeting and even though it's new people, they just GET what you mean about whatever subject it is, bitching or shipping or whatever. I thought that was the coolest part of meeting net fanfriends. Also, I feel funnier when I'm around you guys and that's a rub to the ego.

*cough* Het Bettys (I really don't like that term overmuch, but oh well)

I know, and I apologize for coining it. I was just being jaunty- as I think I said before, "Betty" is 60's surfer slang for a hot chick, which is hardly an insult. It's really no different than saying "het babes". It just had pleasingly catchy alliteration. I never dreamed it would offend anyone.

Hey, no worries. It would be a stretch to say I was offended. There are two approaches to the term: 1. get my panties in a nice big wad and demand that no one else use it because omg I am humor-impaired, or 2. understand that although it might not be my descriptor of choice, it's a convenient catchphrase that wasn't meant in a derogatory way. 2 is the more mature option, and I need to treasure my mature moments, because they are few.

So all of you who've been in fandom a bit--what was your first ship? Why?

You know, I don't remember, and that's kinda sad. I remember shipping (so to speak) stuff that I wrote, but that doesn't really count. Maybe because I wasn't all that into romance. Although there has to be something in there somewhere that I'm forgetting... Anyway, failing that, let's say Edgar/Terra, FFVI. Why? I don't know. I don't even ship them nowadays, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

What made you realize "OMG I am a Fan" with a capital F?

I don't think I thought of anything as fandom, per se, until I got on the internet. I think the first thing I thought was OMG the best thing since sliced bread I wanna live there totally was, yes, laugh, My Side of the Mountain. I soooo wanted to live in the mountains and have a pet falcon in fourth grade, no kidding. I never wrote fanfic about it, since I had no idea what that was, but thoughts of that nature did go through my addled little head.

If you've met internet buds offline, what was the exerience like for you?

Awkward. I don't measure up to what they think I am. I'm supposed to be all witty and insightful and intellectually badass, like some kind of Integra Hellsing with dark hair, but I'm not. I'm awkward and quiet and ugly and the point where I come up with funny things to say usually takes a couple of months to get to, so nobody sees it in brief meetings. And I feel bad about being a disappointment, so I tend to avoid get-togethers unless somebody insists on it.

What are some of your favorite net-buddy get together moments?

Well, apart from the one that I dated and lived with for a year, all my meetings have been really short. Hi, awkward pause, awkward catching-up on what's going on, well I have things to do, see ya.

Then again, I don't have a central crew of friends online, just a bunch of people that I know peripherally. So it may be a result of that, too.

I'm going to be wondering about that first-ship thing now. Arg.

Oh, oh. I kinda shipped Rosa/Kain (FFIV) too. Not so much that I thought they'd make omgthebestcoupleevar, but it intrigued me how messed-up their situation seemed to be. I'm in love with you, you don't care, you're my best friend's girlfriend, etc. Angst, angst, angst.

So all of you who've been in fandom a bit--what was your first ship? Why?

I don't remember exactly. I don't consider myself a shipper since I've never had an OTP (though SessxKag is edging perilously close to OTP territory), but the first 'ship I wrote was Snape/Hermione because I wanted to see if I could make it work realistically. I kind of failed, though, since Snape ended up fifty times creepier than I had originally intended, but whatever.

What made you realize "OMG I am a Fan" with a capital F?

When I started writing fanfiction. But there were signs before that, like the fact that I bought every piece of Hitchhiker's memorabilia ever marketed. When I was in sixth grade. That probably should have tipped me off.

If you've met internet buds offline, what was the exerience like for you?

At Nimbus 2003, and it was fun, but fangirls are scary. I was even mistaken for Cassie Claire at one point, but to be fair we were in her room, I also have red hair, and said fangirl was very, very drunk. As soon as I realized she thought I was someone else I went out into the hall and laughed my ass off.

What are some of your favorite net-buddy get together moments?

Staying up with all the people I met at Nimbus, so, so very drunk. It was a fucking blast. I've never met up with other anime fans, though, and I'm not sure I'd fit in very well. I freaked at people actually walking around in witch's robes, so I'm not sure how well I'd do with cosplayers unless I, myself, was also cosplaying. (Someday... when I find the perfect pink wig... Utena, here I come!)

Dude, I would laugh my ass off too if someone thought I was Cassie Claire. That corner of fandom is a big ball of scary, but in a strangely hilarious way. Bwah. Did she want your autograph or something?

No, she was mostly rambling about how she hadn't read the Draco Trilogy but she OMG loved the Very Secret Diaries. I was like, "why are you telling ME this?" before I realized we each had different ideas about my identity.

First Ship?
Chandler and Monica on Friends. Shut up. Shut up.

What made you realize OMG I am a Fan?
I don't think I was a Fan until college, when I struck the intarweb. I mean, I was a huge Monkees fan, and still am to some extent, and MST3K ruled, but I never got into any sort of community until I got online. And when I found FFN, all bets were off. Sailor Moon, gateway anime that it is, drew me in and kept me in its pink sparkly bosom.

Have you met fen offline?
I have, hate them all, and never want to see them again. Duh.

Actually, as you know, I really like everyone I've met online. ~~That's because I was watching Risky Safety when y'all met whatsherface.~~

Favourite net-buddy get together moments?
Cons. Fabric shopping with

arafel. Going to Cowtown with

irenak. Shopping in NYC and Philly with you. Liturgical dance to badfic.

>^..^

I still think you watching Risky Safety was some cosmic force intervening to prevent a beatdown. Or a snarkdown.

Speaking of which, I'm going to be not incredibly far from The Other One over spring break.

Throwing out some random discussion questions because I are more lazier

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when did I know I loved star trek??

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Wrath of Khan, baby.

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